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    Tuesday
    Jun122012

    Fun with job requirements: How many ways can an object be moved?

    I have a friend in a job search and last week he forwarded to me an online posting for a position he was considering applying to, and wanted some feedback from me about the job, the organization, and whether I felt it was a potential fit for him. I took a quick look and it mostly seemed pretty standard, a technical system admin-type job working on company systems, some different programming languages they were looking for, working on-site in the company offices, etc. Again, nothing really noteworthy or quite frankly interesting about the listing until I got to the end.But can you do this?

    This 'requirement' is taken word for word from the job description in the 'Physical requirements' section of the posting:

    "Primarily sedentary work with the need to exert up to 10 pounds of force occasionally to lift, carry, push, pull or otherwise move objects."

    For some reason, this requirement just about made me spit coffee all over the keyboard, if nothing else for its surface absurdity, but also the thought of someone sitting down, perhaps even having a conversation with a colleague or the hiring manager, when it came time to draft the language for this requirement.

    Perhaps it went something like this:

    HR/Recruiter -Ok, we have the skills, education, job duties down. How about any special physical requirements for the job?

    Hiring Manager -  Well, it is a computer admin job. Just normal work on a computer, you know, typing, working a mouse, that kind of thing.

    HR/Recruiter -Would the person have to lift or carry anything?

    Hiring Manager - Not really, I mean the occasional report or print out. Maybe a technical manual now and

    then.

    HR/Recruiter -Ok, so lifting and carrying are needed.

                             How about pushing or pulling? Any pushing or pulling involved?

    Hiring Manager - Uh, I don't know. Maybe. Sometimes we move the chairs and tables in the conference room around for meetings. 

    HR/Recruiter -Ok, I better add pushing and pulling too.

                              Anything else?

    Hiring Manager - I can't think of anything. I mean, how many different ways can an object be moved?

    Classic. Maybe I am being too hard on the HR person here, maybe the conversation went the other way around and the Hiring Manager insisted the nonsensical requirement made the copy. Either way, the idea at some point, a conversation like the above might have actually happened was enough for me to take notice. Good times.

    I'll sign off with this question - Lift, carry, push, pull - what other ways can an object be moved? 

    Have a great Tuesday!

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    I think we have the ADA / ADAAA to thank for that little nugget in the job description.

    June 12, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTravis Sinquefield

    I was thinking some kind of regulation, but the precise wording like that I had not seen before, especially for a desk job.

    June 13, 2012 | Registered CommenterSteve

    It is definitely one of those ADA things. Not many job postings include that but you can bet many "official" job descriptions include similar language.

    June 13, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Jorgensen

    before we get too far down the rabbit hole consider this... in the computer world (tech world, programming world) skills are almost exclusively a function of the brain... not the brawn and the ability to manipulate a mouse or a keyboard isn't always a function of hands... it can be done in the case of a quadriplegic via a tube or even eye movements - Steven Hawking anyone?

    I'm guessing they wanted to be sure that applicant had some motor skills in order to do exactly what you outlined - carry manuals, a laptop maybe? There must be something in the job that would exclude someone with complete paralysis or something similar. There are probably a lot of programmers with severe physical limitations that code the bejeezuz out of a program but could't lift a 10 lb computer.

    Just sayin... there could be a very logical reason for including that caveat.

    June 13, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterPaul Hebert

    Yes, there are many ways to move things. Hire the person, and in 6 months, go visit their cube. If they have consistently found a way to get someone else to move everything, then they're definitely management material.

    June 14, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTom Lindsay

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